25th April 2008

Red Raw Skin Problems

H is for Happy Hour!Since shortly after birth, our son Keston has had a recurring skin issue. They are patches of rashes that appear on his skin, sometimes slowly and sometimes very quickly, but equally itchy. They are bad enough at times that all he can do while awake is to itch (which tears up his skin due to his razor-sharp fingernails). It also wakes him up several times a night because he’s uncomfortable and he thrashes around and itches for awhile before going back to sleep, usually with the aid of a bottle from us. This means that we’re still, at 5.5 months, getting up every hour or two to handle him.

It was originally diagnosed as eczema, but was elevated to an, “I don’t know,” status by the head dermatologist at the Forest Park Clinic in Mason City and we were referred up to pediatric dermatologist Dr. Jennifer Hand at the Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN, to find out exactly what it was, perhaps why it occurred, and what to do about it. So yesterday I took a day off work and we made the 2 hour drive (and tank of $3.60/gallon gas) up to submit Keston to some poking and prodding and hopefully find some answers to his issues.

The trip was essentially worthless and utterly frustrating. The head dermatologist in Mason is convinced it is *not* eczema, yet once we got up there, the Dr. Hand gave him a brief glance and was like, “It’s just eczema. He looks great. What’s the problem?” Which is nice — he was having one of his good days, rare though they be — but it doesn’t give us many solutions for the nighttime itching and his outburst of rashes from seemingly nothing. Also, wouldn’t you do more if the head of the dermatology clinic in Mason doesn’t even know what the hell it is???

Sigh.

Of course, it started off badly — we were about 5 minutes late so we were rushing, driving through Rochester in the pissing rain, trying to find the parking garage, but that was no problem — we got there and checked in fine. However, when I checked in, the receptionist said, “Oh, is that paperwork for the doctor?” indicating the referral letter and the sheet of all Keston’s prescriptions and diet. I confirmed that it was, and she said, “Oh, ok, I’ll take that and make sure she gets it.” I thought that was nice, so we settled down into the very pretty and subtlety-lit waiting room.

I\'m All Grins!But when it came time to see the doctor, we asked if she had seen the paperwork and she’s like, “No, what paperwork?” She sent the nurse after it, but the receptionist had run off to lunch and the nurse just came back and shrugged her shoulders. The doctor seemed unfazed by this and although we said we could wait for them to find the papers, she just said to continue on, she knew what it was and didn’t need to see the referral (which, in that letter, the doctor in Mason explains why he thought it *wasn’t* eczema). So we had to explain what was going on from memory, his entire history and meds/foods/etc. even though we had written it all down already (my wife has been extremely organized with it all, bless her).

So she weighed him (22lbs now, good thing we got the new car seat today) and briefly examined him and then she pulled out a sheet of suggestions for handling eczema and listed everything off, but we’re already doing everything on the sheet so she was like, “Oh, well, you’re doing good then. Carry on.” We did get another different antihistamine to try at night and yet another OTC skin cream but that’s about it. She said that Keston is nothing compared to some of the kids she sees whose eczema is so bad that they stop growing and get sepsis and staph infections. Which is nice enough to know that we’re not an extreme case, but we still feel like the poor sod shouldn’t have to wake up every hour or two at night itching and tearing up his skin.

So we left feeling very much like we had just completely wasted a tank of gas and an office copay. We went off and did some mild shopping and poking around Rochester, stopped to get supper at TGI Friday’s, decided we didn’t like the look and prices on the menu, and instead ended up at Famous Dave’s. As we did I kept getting madder and madder about the situation and now I’m really pissed about it. So I don’t know what to do at this point, but I think we got fucked and someone’s going to hear about it.

My New Umbrella Stroller!I mean…if we’re doing all we can for Keston and there’s nothing up with him but the eczema and so forth, fine. I can deal with that and we’ll keep on doing what we’re doing to control it. (She said most kids grow out of it by 1 years, but then they usually get asthma…joy.) But if it isn’t, I’m going to feel really bad that we were blown off and, at the time, I didn’t have the balls to tell the doctor she was being a daffy bitch (and or hunt down the stupid bint of a secretary and give her what-for for losing our goddamned paperwork).

Sometimes I envy Type A’s ability to speak up at the moment, whereas I always think about what I *should* have said at the time and then kick myself later. Hindsight…GAH!

For those of us around the Midwest, Mayo is touted as being one of the premier health care centres around, garnering the business of presidents and international dignitaries and handling thousands of cases a year. While I realize that my son’s skin problems are probably small potatoes in the the large scheme of things, don’t we deserve a fair whack at the resources as well, especially if we’ve been explicitly referred there?

There are currently 14 responses to “Red Raw Skin Problems”

  1. 1 On April 25th, 2008, The Wife UNITED STATES (10 comments) said:

    The wifes take on the day……….
    The Dr was so air headish. She would start on a subject then get herself all off and lost talking about other patients of hers. Like how the 15 yr old girl she sees puts some bleach in her bath water, and how teens hate taking baths, and that we shouldn’t do that with Keston cause he is a baby and doesn’t have any infections right now. So since he is a baby and doesn’t have infections, then WHY TELL US??? It went on and on with lil stories. Oh and the classic one. If we get to annoyed with his skin ( ummmm hello, we are here aren’t we??) then we can admit him to Mayo and have him treated, but just to be warned the creams used can cause cancer?? WTF???
    It nice to be told we are on the ball, we are doing amazing well and we seem to know all about allergies and bad skin and how to treat it, but we came to see the best of the best for a reason. I think if she said “When your annoyed enough with dealing with this problem you come back to me” one for time i would have SMACKED HER!
    So we are told he has eczema, and is allergic to fragrances, and to keep him away from them and people wearing them. I still dont believe its eczema at all, it looks nothing like it. Arggggggggggg I’m pissed!!!! I’ll shut up now. The END!

  2. 2 On April 25th, 2008, Shelley UNITED STATES (5 comments) said:

    :shock: What a pain in the ass! I’m sorry you guys are having to deal with so much. I am totally with you on the wishing every so often that you had that type a personality. There’s been *many* times where I’ve wanted to tell the world what I thought of their behavior toward my kids (friends and doctors) and have held back.

    On happier notes, glad to hear you got the car seat. Did you end up with the one like Nick’s (Evenflo)?

    Shelley’s last blog post..poor Nick

  3. 3 On April 25th, 2008, Nathan Pralle UNITED STATES (47 comments) said:

    We ended up getting an Evenflo Triumph LX in Harbortown. We kinda wanted a Britax, but the price + how much room they take up was a negative, so we felt this was the best of the choices.

  4. 4 On April 25th, 2008, chris (16 comments) said:

    Hi Nathan,
    I have had eczema since I was around 12 years old and I have always felt the doctors weren’t that concerned - I believe it’s because they don’t know how miserable it is and don’t feel it’s a serious disease. I don’t of course know if your son does have eczema or what his exact symptoms are. But eczema is as you described, and it itches the worst at night- it can be horrible! Over the counter steroid cremes like hydrocortizone help a little, but not completely. From my own research into it, I’ve learned it is caused by your immune system being out of balance, not enough good bacteria and too much of the bad, and the skin, being a non-vital organ for life (at least not initially) is sacrificed- the body will rob nutrients from the skin to sustain life, causing skin problems. Usually people with eczema have too much yeast in their intestines, and the steroid cremes they prescribe just add to the problem and deplete your immune system even more. Diet is key to controlling it, as there is no cure. Typical foods that can cause an outbreak are dairy products, especially milk and cheeses, eggs, orange juice, any product with yeast like breads, and chocolate. refined sugar also increases the over-growth of yeast so it’s recommended to stay away from it. I wrote an article on it; if you’d like to read it, here’s the url:
    http://www.healthmad.com/Conditions-and-Diseases/Help-for-Eczema.71554
    For instant relief, try the red apple cider vinegar and baking soda mixed into a paste - it really works. After dry, wash it off, then apply hydrocortizone cream, and an antifungal cream such as used for ringworm or athlete’s foot (like lotrimin) is helpful to relieve the skin and help it start healing. The vinegar/baking soda combo won’t burn like pure vinegar would. You might want to thin the vinegar down with a little water for the baby, just in case. My eczema is more blistery or like hives, and after 3 or 4 days of the vinegar/baking soda treatment, it will be dried out and the skin peels, and looks normal again–until the next break-out.

    I’m not sure what you could give, supplement wise, to a baby, but plain yogurt is excellent, or taking probiotics (both increase the good bacteria), omega 3 fish oils, vitamin D, magnesium, zink among other things are all recommended for people with eczema to boost the immune system. You’ll find a lot of information on it online too. I could never get any real answers out of doctors so I took matters into my own hands. I hope some of this helps you…Good luck.
    Chris

    chris’s last blog post..Danger of Microwave ovens

  5. 5 On April 26th, 2008, mel AUSTRALIA (41 comments) said:

    Landa… have you tried the cream I emailed you about? Honestly I know you are probably getting a tonne of information about what you should and shouldn’t use .. if you are anything like me in the end you are just about willing to try anything. We went for weeks and weeks lack of sleep from Lara itching.. and itching so bad she bled. If you can’t get the cream over there (Its called Calendulis Plus and I know its expensive as hell) I’m more than willing to send you some in the mail.. just let me know and i’ll grab you some. We had to treat hers with an antifungal first and then used this after and it has yet to come back!!! Anything is worth a try.. so let me know!!

    It’s a terrible feeling to watch your child be uncomfortable… Good luck guys!!

    OHHHH and did you know that Nappy Rash can be systemic?? It’s not that is it?.. I never knew this until i was researching Laras rash!! I thought you could only ever get nappy rash down stairs!

  6. 6 On April 26th, 2008, QueenieCarly (3 comments) said:

    Poor little guy…

    In regards to the excema - asthma connection, I believe it is the medication that is used to treat the skin condition that is thought to be responsible for the appearance of asthma later on. It’s probably worth looking into.

  7. 7 On April 27th, 2008, janet (4 comments) said:

    He is so cute!!

    Have you looked into food allergies? Maybe cutting things out of his diet would help (although ugh, that seems like an un-fun process to test out).

  8. 8 On April 28th, 2008, nicheplayer UNITED STATES (54 comments) said:

    Well, that isn’t cool at all. Not even a little bit. We had a similar problem with Ava when she was younger, and we were just about to the point where we stopped breastfeeding (a huge deal for Leah) when we got a second opinion that totally changed our course of action. Doctors. Sheesh. They’re just people with white coats! Like butchers, except with framed diplomas.

    nicheplayer’s last blog post..Tree removal

  9. 9 On April 28th, 2008, Nathan Pralle UNITED STATES (47 comments) said:

    Chris: Very interesting — we always figured that it was probably a systemic root cause. Your information certainly gives food for thought. I’m not sure his skin would take the vinegar solution, but it’s something to think about.

    Mel: We haven’t tried it yet, but we’ll look into it…very interesting. I don’t think it’s nappy rash — he had bad nappy rash early on but the application of our homemade petro jelly + baking soda did the trick and still does. Plus, it looked so different. But a good thought.

    Carly: Interesting; I guess I hadn’t heard that. The doctors were saying that the same gene sequence that causes eczema is the same one that causes asthma, hence the connection. But it’d suck if it was brought on by the medication!

    Janet: Yeah, that’s what we’re exploring now. He’s already had to switch to a special formula due to milk allergies; we’re exploring switching him yet again to an even MORE sensitive (and expensive) formula, in case that’s what it is.

    Nicheplayer: I hate the fact that there’s many areas that are black-and-white with healthcare and so many others that are completely subjective based on the day and how the doctor is feeling. Drives me up a wall.

  10. 10 On April 28th, 2008, Sara UNITED STATES (9 comments) said:

    Hey! I didn’t think of it until I read the posts above, but Paige’s allergist did say that there was a huge connection between skin conditions and respiratory stuff like asthma and allergies. (only that they are triggered by the same thing, don’t worry that if you don’t solve this mystery you’ve given him the plague for the rest of his life.) Basically the body sees something mildly irritating (eek fragrance!) and gets all charged up (attack!) and makes so much the body puts it to use doing other things (hrm…there’s a whole layer of skin to fight! get ‘em guys)

    As mentioned above lots of it at this age is diet related. Don’t forget that a lot of formulas aren’t just milk based, if he has egg allergies too, formula might be affecting him. Unfortunately, though some allergens run in the family not all do, but that’s a good place to start, though I guess the kid’s not probably eating scrambled eggs. You have pet allergies, is the cat around him at all?

    Offhand the only two other things that were brought up when Paige’s body freaks out is take them to the chiropractor and/or get them those awfully cute glove-y mitts (I had to keep Paige’s on with hair ties for awhile)

  11. 11 On May 5th, 2008, background checks blog (1 comments) said:

    Poor little guy! I am not a doc, and have no advice on clearing up the problem, but if you put little gloves on his hands at least he can’t scratch himself up as badly.

    background checks blog’s last blog post..When a Resume is Just Not Enough

  12. 12 On May 6th, 2008, RachelV UNITED STATES (5 comments) said:

    Keston is too cute! I love seeing pictures of him!

    Here’s my advice to add to everyone elses :wink: Pick up some Calendula Cream from CaliforniaBaby.com It always clears up my kids eczema. It’s a little pricey, but totally worth the purchase. In fact, I need to order some more :roll:

    Hey Nathan, tell Yolanda that I’ll be going on AIM (hopefully) in the next day or two and I’ll be looking for her to talk to her!

    RachelV’s last blog post..Colby is a month old!

  13. 13 On May 6th, 2008, Bass Lake Real Estate (1 comments) said:

    Epson salts baths will relieve the itching substantially until the doctor can find out why he has the problem. And don’t be afraid to speak out for your son or yourself. You are a customer paying for a service!

  14. 14 On June 14th, 2008, komodo dragon UNITED STATES (2 comments) said:

    aww, poor little baby … i hope everything turns out alright

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